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Zeitgeist On Horus

In the movie "Zeitgeist", Peter Joseph says, "This is Horus.  He is the Sun God of Egypt of around 3000 B.C.  He is the sun, anthropomorphized and his life is a series of allegorical myths involving the sun's movement in the sky."

Other than the fact that he's from Egypt around 3000 B.C., all of this is false.  The Egyptian sun God is Ra, Not Horus. Horus is associated with the sun, as are most Egyptian deities, but he is hardly "the" Sun God.

Joseph then goes on to talk about Horus and his enemy, Set, metaphorically battling every morning, where Horus would win the battle, and every evening, where Set would win the battle, which he says corresponds to the sun rising (Horus winning) and setting (Set winning and sending Horus to the underworld).  Except for Horus defeating Set, none of this is part of Egyptian mythology.  Set never defeats Horus, Horus never goes to the underworld, and in no metaphorical way does this happen daily.  Most of Joseph's claims seem to be completely imagined, the work of someone totally unfamilair with Egyptian mythology.  The Zeitgeist sourcebook only confirms that they battled, never showing evidence that it happened daily.

"Broadly speaking, the story of Horus is as follows:

Horus
Born on Dec 25th
Born of a virgin
Star in the East
Adored by 3 kings
Teacher at 12
Baptized/ministry at 30
12 disciples
Performed miracles
"Lamb of God"/"The Light"
Crucified
Dead for 3 days
Resurrected"

Hardly any of this applies to any pre-Christian version of the Horus story.  There are several birthdates assigned to Horus, one of which is sometime around the winter solstice (usually December 21st or 22nd), though the exact date is not clear.  However, it hardly matters, since Jesus was almost certainly not born on 12/25.  That date was assigned long after Jesus' time, with no evidence that it corresponds to Jesus' actual birthdate.  There's about a 1 in 365 chance of it being correct (probably less, actually, since warmer weather is suggested in the Biblical texts).  

Horus being born of a virgin is iffy.  None of the stories seem to suggest that Isis was a virgin, though I've seen a few university-level scholar who see to think she was.

And, yes, Horus did perform miracles, though none that would correspond to Jesus' miracles.  No walking on water, resurrecting dead people, water into wine, etc.  

Horus had no star in the east, wasn't adored by 3 kings, wasn't a teacher at age 12, was never baptized, did not begin his ministry at age 30, didn't have 12 disciples, was never called "The Lamb of God" or "The Light", wasn't crucified, wasn't dead for three days, and was never resurrected.  There is zero evidence for these claims being part of pre-Christian mythology - no stories where they happen, no images of them happening, or anything.

Those who will tell you that these things were part of the ancient Horus story have never seen the evidence, but only seen so-called "scholars" (none of them university-level) claiming these things to be true.

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FreeThoughtNation links responded to ..

Kelly, several of your links are already responded to & it would seem refuted => http://www.kingdavid8.com/_full_article.php?id=d6070c58-67b9-11e1-98ae-1c1d3fe5c013Posted by admrich on Oct 10, 2012

Horus claim has no backing

The entire Horus-Jesus claim was made up by some self-proclaimed "Egyptologist" with not credentials. He wrote a book. People read it. Scholars rejected it. Gullible, Christian-haters did whatever they could to justify it. Overall....fail.Posted by berniecooke on Jul 29, 2012

To those who are just posting links, I just wanted you to know that people claiming something is true, doesn't make it true. If mythicists want to convince people, they need to actually present the evidence, not just repetitions of the claims.Posted by KingDavid8 on Jul 14, 2012

just watched zeitgeist...

And I was a bit bombarded at first, but then I remembered some of the researching I had already done on Horus, Attis, and Mithra, and knew something was off. However, there is that HUGE list of "commonalities" between Horus and Jesus at 26:40 in the movie, and was wondering if you have any book or website suggestions to do some further reading. Ps- thanks so much for your site!Posted by Beth on Jul 14, 2012

Well said JamesPosted by berniecooke on Jun 25, 2012

Zeitgeist Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZgT1SRcrKE

Zeitgeist Part 1 Sourcebook transcript & sources
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeistsourcebook.pdf

Rebuttal to Dr. Chris Forbes concerning 'Zeitgeist, Part 1'
http://truthbeknown.com/chrisforbeszeitgeist.html

Zeitgeist Part 1 & the Supportive Evidence
http://freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2997

Jesus & Horus Parallels and KingDavid8.com Exposed
http://www.freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3206

The Horus Challenge
http://www.freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=4177&p=26134#p26134
Posted by Kelly on Jun 25, 2012

Zeitgeist Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZgT1SRcrKE The Zeitgeist Part 1 Sourcebook Transcript & sources (2010) http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeistsourcebook.pdf Rebuttal to Dr. Chris Forbes concerning 'Zeitgeist, Part 1' http://truthbeknown.com/chrisforbeszeitgeist.html Zeitgeist Part 1 & the Supportive Evidence http://freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2997 Jesus & Horus Parallels and KingDavid8.com Exposed http://www.freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3206 The Horus Challenge http://www.freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=4177&p=26134#p26134Posted by Luke on Jun 21, 2012

luls

I read the story of Horus before i watched this movie or even heard about it, the story had me going to an extent till i saw it talking about Horus and then I realized this movie is a bullshit cannon that rallies the masses of Youtube atheists.Posted by James on Mar 13, 2012