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On Effeminate Men

Hi,

Interesting site you have there. I'm an atheist and kind of despise Christianity, but it seems to me that you, unlike many other fanatical Christians out there, are an honest person, although I still have my doubts on the historical data you provide. However some of the answers you give to the biblical contradictions are forced and just plain stupid (like the Judas's death details for example -- come on).

I have a question regarding your statement that homosexuality is not a sin.1 Cor 6:10 says that effeminate men cannot be saved. I guess it's talking about gay people. Besides, effeminate people are not necessarily gays. What does God have against sissy persons?

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I responded:

"Interesting site you have there. I'm an atheist and kind of despise Christianity, but it seems to me that you, unlike many other fanatical Christians out there, are an honest person"

Thanks. I actually used to be an atheist who despised Christianity as well. I used to work at a retirement center back then, and one day watched a bunch of old people listening to a televangelist say that if they didn't send him money, they would die and go to hell. I promised that I would never join a religion that preached that kind of crap, but I guess I came to see it for Jesus and not just the followers. I still have a huge problem with a lot of what I see in Christianity. There's more good than bad in it, but the bad can be pretty awful.

"although I still have my doubts on the historical data you provide. However some of the answers you give to the biblical contradictions are forced and just plain stupid (like the Judas's death details for example -- come on)."

So do you really think the author of Acts was suggesting that Judas was walking along, tripped, and his guts split open? Come on.

"I have a question regarding your statement that homosexuality is not a sin.1 Cor 6:10 says that effeminate men cannot be saved. I guess it's talking about gay people. Besides, effeminate people are not necessarily gays. What does God have against sissy persons?"

Actually, in this text, it's not referring to homosexuals, but the next item on the list (usually translated as ‘abusers of themselves with mankind') does refer to homosexuals who are active in the lifestyle (again, "being gay" is not a sin, acting on it is).

As for what God has against the effeminate, it's probably something that applies more in Luke's day than in ours, but strength was a necessary trait for survival. And they are not beyond hope of salvation, since the next verse says "And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God." Anyone living outside of God's will (which includes all of us, to some extent) cannot attain salvation for themselves, but Jesus justifies them.

Peace,

David

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The writer responded:

"So do you really the author of Acts was suggesting that Judas was walking along, tripped, and his guts split open? Come on."

Well... yes. The Bible is full of tall tales and absurdities anyway. The author of Genesis suggests that there was "night" and "day" and "light" on the earth before sun was created; the author of Kings affirms that an iron axe floats on water. I wouldn't be surprised if the author of Acts was actually suggesting that our naughty friend Judas was walking along, tripped and his guts split open.

But my main problem with the Bible passages about Judas' death is that there are two more contradictions. For example, why is that field called "Field of Blood"? In Matt says it's because the field was used as a burial place for foreigners; but in Acts says it was because of Judas' bloody death. Which one is correct?

Bye and I hope I'm not annoying you with my questions.

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I responded:

"Well... yes. The Bible is full of tall tales and absurdities anyway. The author of Genesis suggests that there was "night" and "day" and "light" on the earth before sun was created;"

Not quite. The sun was created on the first day, but was appointed (Hebrew "asah") as the divider of the seasons and day/night on the 4th day.

"the author of Kings affirms that an iron axe floats on water."

And Jesus walked on water. I understand that if you don't believe in God, you don't believe that God can cause miracles. But if (as we Christians believe) God is capable of creating the entire universe, making an axe float is no big feat for Him.

"I wouldn't be surprised if the author of Acts was actually suggesting that our naughty friend Judas was walking along, tripped and his guts split open."

I would, especially since his method of demise would have been well-known to the author of Acts, who clearly knew the apostles.

"But my main problem with the Bible passages about Judas' death is that there are two more contradictions. For example, why is that field called "Field of Blood"? In Matt says it's because the field was used as a burial place for foreigners; but in Acts says it was because of Judas' bloody death. Which one is correct?"

Actually, both passages say it was called the Field of Blood because it was purchased with Judas' money for betraying Jesus. The "Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood" (in Matthew 27:8) refers back two verses, to the comment that it was bought with the price of Jesus' blood. That foreigners were buried there wouldn't explain why it was called "the field of blood", it was just a comment explaining the original purpose of the field.

"Bye and I hope I'm not annoying you with my questions."

Absolutely not. I always welcome questions.

David

 

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